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Sp\u00e9cialiste des d\u00e9chets, il s\u2019int\u00e9resse en particulier aux plastiques. Il a publi\u00e9 en 2017 <em>Homo Detritus, Critique de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 du d\u00e9chet <\/em><span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.seuil.com\/ouvrage\/homo-detritus-baptiste-monsaingeon\/9782021352603\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[1]<\/a><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><span data-token-index=\"2\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\" data-reactroot=\"\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-token-index=\"2\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\" data-reactroot=\"\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-token-index=\"2\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\" data-reactroot=\"\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.19.2&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_font=\u00a0\u00bbPoppins|300|||||||\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#333333&Prime; text_line_height=\u00a0\u00bb1.9em\u00a0\u00bb header_2_font=\u00a0\u00bbPoppins|600|||||||\u00a0\u00bb header_2_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#21BE8B\u00a0\u00bb header_2_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb29px\u00a0\u00bb header_2_letter_spacing=\u00a0\u00bb1px\u00a0\u00bb header_2_line_height=\u00a0\u00bb1.2em\u00a0\u00bb header_3_font=\u00a0\u00bbPoppins||||||||\u00a0\u00bb header_3_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#2C2C69&Prime; width=\u00a0\u00bb100%\u00a0\u00bb max_width=\u00a0\u00bb100%\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb||||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|0px||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<\/p>\n<h3>Bonjour Baptiste !<br \/><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">Quel est l\u2019int\u00e9r\u00eat d\u2019\u00e9tudier les d\u00e9chets sous l\u2019angle de la sociologie ?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>L\u2019anthropoc\u00e8ne <\/strong><span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vie-publique.fr\/parole-dexpert\/271086-terre-climat-quest-ce-que-lanthropocene-ere-geologique#:~:text=L%27Anthropoc%C3%A8ne%20est%20une%20nouvelle,d%27un%20d%C3%A9sordre%20plan%C3%A9taire%20in%C3%A9dit.\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[2]<\/a><\/span><strong>, c\u2019est une s\u00e9rie de ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes bio-g\u00e9o-physico-chimiques, mais c\u2019est d\u2019abord et avant tout le fruit de choix politiques, \u00e9conomiques et d\u2019une histoire, celle des civilisations industrielles.<\/strong> Au-del\u00e0 des sciences naturelles, il y a une importance consid\u00e9rable \u00e0 faire entendre ce que les sciences humaines et sociales ont \u00e0 raconter sur les d\u00e9chets, dont le mode de gestion actuel s\u2019inscrit dans l\u2019anthropoc\u00e8ne. <strong>La question de l\u2019interdisciplinarit\u00e9 me travaille beaucoup en ce moment\u00a0: comment faire pour que sciences humaines et sociales et sciences naturelles se nourrissent mutuellement pour faire avancer le savoir\u00a0?<\/strong> Le philosophe Michel Serres parlait du \u00ab\u00a0passage du Nord-Ouest\u00a0\u00bb, comme m\u00e9taphore de ce dialogue. Voie de navigation permettant de passer de l\u2019Atlantique au Pacifique par le Nord, entre les glaces, elle tend aujourd\u2019hui \u00e0 \u00eatre ouverte toute l\u2019ann\u00e9e sous les effets du r\u00e9chauffement climatique. Faut-il y voir un signe que l\u2019urgence \u00e9cologique impose de continuer \u00e0 construire ce dialogue\u00a0?<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/><\/span><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">Dans votre livre, vous expliquez que notre rapport aux d\u00e9chets a \u00e9norm\u00e9ment \u00e9volu\u00e9 au cours des deux derniers si\u00e8cles. Le d\u00e9chet, dans son acception moderne, serait m\u00eame une invention des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s occidentales au 19\u00e8me si\u00e8cle.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Si tout le monde sait ce que sont les d\u00e9chets aujourd\u2019hui, on ne peut pas dire que \u00ab\u00a0de tout temps, les hommes ont produit des d\u00e9chets\u00a0\u00bb.<\/strong> L\u2019acception moderne du d\u00e9chet est l\u2019h\u00e9ritage d\u2019une rupture m\u00e9tabolique qui a eu lieu \u00e0 la fin du 19\u00e8me si\u00e8cle, dans les grandes villes europ\u00e9ennes et am\u00e9ricaines.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pour simplifier ce processus, on peut dire qu\u2019il y a eu trois temps li\u00e9s \u00e0 la question des d\u00e9chets et de leur gestion\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Un \u00ab\u00a0avant\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong>\u00a0: jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la fin du 19\u00e8me si\u00e8cle, les d\u00e9chets produits par les villes \u00e9taient en fait ce qu\u2019on peut nommer, d\u2019apr\u00e8s la chercheuse Sabine Barles <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/geographie-cites.cnrs.fr\/en\/members\/sabine-barles\/\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[3]<\/a><\/span>, des excr\u00e9tas urbains. Provisoirement stock\u00e9s \u00e0 la lisi\u00e8re des villes, ils \u00e9taient trait\u00e9s par les paysans et les chiffonniers, qui transformaient les boues urbaines en engrais pour l\u2019agriculture et les chiffons en mati\u00e8re premi\u00e8re pour l\u2019industrie papeti\u00e8re.<\/li>\n<li><strong>La rupture et l\u2019apparition du d\u00e9chet dans son acception moderne<\/strong> : \u00e0 la fin du 19\u00e8me si\u00e8cle, les pratiques anciennes de remise en circulation des excr\u00e9tas sont mises \u00e0 mal. Ceci pour de multiples raisons : croissance d\u00e9mographique urbaine, diversification des d\u00e9chets, innovations technologiques, essor de l\u2019hygi\u00e9nisme qui voit dans les d\u00e9chets des sources d\u2019\u00e9pid\u00e9mies. Les d\u00e9charges vont alors devenir le mode principal de gestion des d\u00e9chets jusqu\u2019au dernier quart du XX\u00e8me si\u00e8cle.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Un \u00ab\u00a0apr\u00e8s\u00a0\u00bb qui n\u2019en est pas vraiment un<\/strong> : \u00e0 la fin du XX\u00e8me si\u00e8cle, le d\u00e9chet est d\u00e9fini juridiquement (1975 en France <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/expertises.ademe.fr\/professionnels\/entreprises\/reduire-impacts\/reduire-cout-dechets\/quest-quun-dechet#:~:text=Selon%20la%20loi%20du%2015,%27abandon%20%C2%BB%20(article%20L.\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[4]<\/a><\/span>). Cette d\u00e9finition a normalis\u00e9, banalis\u00e9, l\u2019acception nouvelle du d\u00e9chet apparue \u00e0 la fin du XIX\u00e8me si\u00e8cle\u00a0: la r\u00e9sultante d\u2019une logique d\u2019abandon. Au m\u00eame moment, une prise de conscience environnementale affleure dans l\u2019opinion publique et la question des d\u00e9chets est identifi\u00e9e comme un levier potentiel de changement. On annonce l\u2019imp\u00e9ratif de r\u00e9duction des d\u00e9chets, du r\u00e9emploi et du recyclage. On construit \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque beaucoup d\u2019incin\u00e9rateurs.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>La th\u00e8se que j\u2019essaie de d\u00e9fendre, c\u2019est de montrer qu\u2019en mati\u00e8re de d\u00e9chets ce tournant environnemental de la fin du XX\u00e8me si\u00e8cle n\u2019en a pas tout \u00e0 fait \u00e9t\u00e9 un. <\/strong>Sous couvert d\u2019environnementalisation de la question des d\u00e9chets, on a pu perp\u00e9tuer des logiques productivistes et consum\u00e9ristes, qui auraient \u00e9t\u00e9 mises en cause par des politiques beaucoup plus ambitieuses, notamment de r\u00e9duction des d\u00e9chets. C\u2019est un \u00ab\u00a0apr\u00e8s\u00a0\u00bb qui en n\u2019est pas vraiment un, on est dans le m\u00eame continuum moderniste, y compris \u00e0 l\u2019heure de l\u2019\u00e9conomie circulaire et du z\u00e9ro d\u00e9chet, paradoxalement.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">Pourquoi faut-il \u00eatre particuli\u00e8rement vigilants avec certaines initiatives promettant l\u2019\u00e9conomie circulaire et le z\u00e9ro d\u00e9chet\u00a0?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ce qui est certain, c\u2019est que l\u2019argument de protection de l\u2019environnement dans la gestion des d\u00e9chets a \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s utilis\u00e9 par un grand nombre d\u2019acteurs, des industriels aux politiques en passant par les associations.<\/p>\n<p>Pour tenter de nuancer\u00a0:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Le recyclage a bien des effets vertueux <\/strong>notamment en termes de limitation d\u2019impacts et d\u2019usages des ressources.<\/li>\n<li>Mais l\u00e0 o\u00f9 l\u2019on peut critiquer fortement les effets des politiques publiques orient\u00e9es vers le recyclage des d\u00e9chets depuis 50 ans, c\u2019est qu\u2019elles on fait une promesse de recyclage, alors qu\u2019on s\u2019est tr\u00e8s t\u00f4t rendu compte qu\u2019il n\u2019est pas sans limites. On a laiss\u00e9 entendre aux citoyens ceci : si vous mettez votre d\u00e9chet dans la bonne poubelle, il sera recycl\u00e9. Or, en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, m\u00eame pour le PET <a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiofrance.fr\/franceinter\/est-ce-que-le-plastique-se-recycle-vraiment-8268380\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #99cc00;\">[<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">5<\/span>]<\/span><\/a>, l\u2019un des plastiques les mieux recycl\u00e9s, on observe la plupart du temps un sous-cyclage <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/sous-cyclage\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[6]<\/a><\/span>, une perte de qualit\u00e9 du mat\u00e9riau apr\u00e8s chaque utilisation. <strong>Paradoxalement, le d\u00e9veloppement du recyclage a emp\u00each\u00e9 une r\u00e9duction effective des d\u00e9chets. <\/strong>Les pays o\u00f9 l\u2019on recycle le mieux sont aussi les pays o\u00f9 la r\u00e9duction de la production des d\u00e9chets n\u2019a pas eu lieu, comme dans certains pays du nord de l\u2019Europe <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.openaccessgovernment.org\/which-countries-are-the-most-efficient-at-minimising-waste\/96037\/\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[7]<\/a><\/span>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">Peut-on comparer notre mani\u00e8re de g\u00e9rer les d\u00e9chets \u00e0 notre mani\u00e8re de g\u00e9rer l\u2019\u00e9nergie ?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>En effet,<\/strong> <strong>dans les domaines de l\u2019\u00e9nergie et des d\u00e9chets, nous sommes confront\u00e9s \u00e0 un double probl\u00e8me\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>L\u2019effet rebond<\/strong> : <strong>\u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9chelle europ\u00e9enne, on observe une stagnation de la production des d\u00e9chets, voire une tendance \u00e0 la hausse dans les pays qui ont optimis\u00e9 leur recyclage, alors qu\u2019on aurait pu esp\u00e9rer l\u2019inverse<\/strong>. D\u2019ailleurs, il n\u2019est pas impossible que certains biais statistiques nous permettent d\u2019afficher un taux de production des d\u00e9chets stable alors qu\u2019il serait dans les faits \u00e0 la hausse. A cause de cet effet rebond, le <em>waste peak<\/em>, proposition statistique tr\u00e8s hypoth\u00e9tique datant le moment o\u00f9 la r\u00e9duction des d\u00e9chets sera effective \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9chelle mondiale, n\u2019est pas pour demain. Une \u00e9tude de 2013 le datait \u00e0 2100 <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/phys.org\/news\/2013-10-global-solid-peak-million-tons.html\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[8]<\/a><\/span>\u2026<\/li>\n<li><strong>Le verrou technique<\/strong>\u00a0: <strong>quand on met en place un incin\u00e9rateur ou une usine de tri sur un territoire, on l\u2019engage sur des d\u00e9cennies<\/strong>, en termes de fiscalit\u00e9 et de contractualisation avec les acteurs \u00e9conomiques. Cela enjoint les populations \u00e0 continuer de produire au moins autant de d\u00e9chets sur la dur\u00e9e du contrat. C\u2019est pour cela qu\u2019<strong>il est tr\u00e8s important de se rendre compte que le d\u00e9chet n\u2019est pas que l\u2019affaire des ing\u00e9nieurs et des industriels\u00a0: derri\u00e8re les questions tr\u00e8s techniques, il y a un enjeu politique tr\u00e8s grand.<\/strong> Si le citoyen en prend conscience, il se demandera si, avant de construire un incin\u00e9rateur, on ne pourrait pas d\u2019abord travailler \u00e0 la r\u00e9duction de nos d\u00e9chets.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">En \u00e9voquant la\u00a0crise des d\u00e9chets\u00a0plut\u00f4t que la crise de la production, se trompe-t-on de probl\u00e8me\u00a0?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Il y a bien une crise des d\u00e9chets, mais \u00e0 force de focaliser notre attention sur cette crise et les petits gestes pour la r\u00e9soudre, on en vient \u00e0 produire des solutions paradoxales et finalement contre-productives. <\/strong><strong>Encore aujourd\u2019hui, on probl\u00e9matise les d\u00e9chets comme une maladie <\/strong><span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.francebleu.fr\/infos\/environnement\/les-dechets-c-est-des-bobos-pour-la-planete-une-dizaine-de-limougeauds-se-mobilisent-pour-le-clean-1663502551\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[9]<\/a><\/span>. <strong>Or, plus qu\u2019une maladie, le d\u00e9chet est un sympt\u00f4me d\u2019une probl\u00e9matique plus vaste et complexe, que l\u2019on peut nommer productivisme ou capitalisme,<\/strong> ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes qui nous ont men\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019anthropoc\u00e8ne. Comme le dit le chercheur Yannick Rumpala <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ermes-unice.fr\/?q=node\/51\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[10]<\/a><\/span>, \u00e0 force de se focaliser sur les petits gestes, on rel\u00e8gue au second plan la question des grands choix.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">Le philosophe du vivant Baptiste Morizot <\/span><span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Baptiste_Morizot\" class=\"notion-link-token notion-enable-hover\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-token-index=\"1\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><span class=\"link-annotation-unknown-block-id--265767356\">[11]<\/span><\/a><\/span><span data-token-index=\"2\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">\u00a0parle de la crise \u00e9cologique comme d\u2019une crise de notre rapport avec le vivant. Que disent nos relations avec les d\u00e9chets en Occident de notre rapport \u00e0 la nature\u00a0?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Tout comme Baptiste Morizot, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s marqu\u00e9 par les travaux de Philippe Descola <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Philippe_Descola\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[12]<\/a><\/span> et de la proposition qu\u2019il fait. <strong>Ce qui a engendr\u00e9 l\u2019anthropoc\u00e8ne, les bouleversements \u00e9cologiques contemporains, c\u2019est l\u2019h\u00e9ritage, dans la modernit\u00e9 occidentale, d\u2019une fa\u00e7on de regarder le monde, de distinguer nature et culture, au c\u0153ur d\u2019une conception dualiste.<\/strong> On a envisag\u00e9 la \u00ab\u00a0nature\u00a0\u00bb comme une ext\u00e9riorit\u00e9. Pour paraphraser Descartes, cette cosmologie nous a permis de nous imaginer \u00ab comme ma\u00eetres et possesseurs de la nature \u00bb. Ce naturalisme nous a mis loin d\u2019une relation sensible avec nos milieux et en particulier avec le vivant.<\/p>\n<p>Comme le souligne Baptiste Morizot, on a aujourd\u2019hui une connaissance beaucoup plus sensible de la technosph\u00e8re (des marques de grande consommation par exemple) que de la biosph\u00e8re (des essences d\u2019arbres locaux par exemple).<\/p>\n<p><strong>A travers nos d\u00e9chets, j\u2019essaie de montrer comment on a perp\u00e9tu\u00e9 cette promesse moderniste de ma\u00eetrise et de domination de l\u2019environnement<\/strong>. <strong>Par le biais de nos d\u00e9chets, on peut montrer qu\u2019il n\u2019existe pas de nature immacul\u00e9e ou pr\u00e9-humaine.<\/strong> La pollution, les d\u00e9chets, les restes, font partie, qu\u2019on le veuille ou non, de notre milieu. La bouteille qu\u2019on per\u00e7oit au fond de la for\u00eat n\u2019est pas simplement signe de souillure. C\u2019est le signe de la\u00a0nature d\u2019apr\u00e8s, la nature malgr\u00e9 tout, comme le dit l\u2019anthropologue Anna Tsing <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Anna_Tsing\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[13]<\/a><\/span>. Une nature fondamentalement pollu\u00e9e, transform\u00e9e, mais avec laquelle il va falloir r\u00e9apprendre \u00e0 vivre, maintenant que les d\u00e9chets sont partout.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\">Les plastiques sont, comme vous l\u2019expliquez, l\u2019un des signes flagrants de cette \u00ab\u00a0nature d\u2019apr\u00e8s\u00a0\u00bb.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Ceci d\u2019autant plus que les d\u00e9chets plastiques concernent toutes les \u00e9chelles du vivant\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>L\u2019\u00e9chelle macroscopique<\/strong> : il s\u2019agit par exemple de la \u00ab\u00a0soupe de plastique\u00a0\u00bb <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.fr\/quest-ce-que-la-soupe-plastique-de-locean-pacifique\/\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[14]<\/a><\/span> dans le Pacifique Nord.<\/li>\n<li><strong>L\u2019\u00e9chelle nanoscopique :<\/strong> <strong>des d\u00e9couvertes tr\u00e8s r\u00e9centes montrent que les plastiques constituent d\u2019ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0 des \u00e9l\u00e9ments du vivant<\/strong>. O\u00f9 que l\u2019on se trouve sur Terre, on ing\u00e8rerait l\u2019\u00e9quivalent d\u2019une carte de cr\u00e9dit de plastique par semaine <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wwf.fr\/sites\/default\/files\/doc-2019-07\/20190718_De_la_nature_aux_humains_jusquou_iront_les_plastiques-min.pdf\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[15]<\/a><\/span>. Il ne s\u2019agit pas, <em>a priori<\/em>, d\u2019une bonne nouvelle. Les plastiques contiennent en effet beaucoup d\u2019additifs, qui sont pour certains canc\u00e9rig\u00e8nes ou peuvent g\u00e9n\u00e9rer des troubles hormonaux <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerowastefrance.org\/alerte-effets-nocifs-plastique-sante\/\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[16]<\/a><\/span>. Toutefois, paradoxalement, il a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9montr\u00e9 que certains nanoplastiques, qui tapissent nos intestins, peuvent \u00eatre de bons supports pour le d\u00e9veloppement bact\u00e9rien et donc de la flore intestinale. On sait aussi qu\u2019en fonction de l\u2019\u00e2ge des patients, ces m\u00eames nanoplastiques ont tendance \u00e0 g\u00e9n\u00e9rer des r\u00e9actions inflammatoires. Il reste encore beaucoup d\u2019incertitudes <span style=\"color: #99cc00;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/d41586-021-01143-3\" style=\"color: #99cc00;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">[17]<\/a><\/span>. Anna Tsing nous invite d\u00e8s lors \u00e0 r\u00e9aliser que ce monde art\u00e9factuel, pollu\u00e9, la vie, parvient toujours \u00e0 se frayer un chemin, peut-\u00eatre par des formes inattendues, d\u00e9sagr\u00e9ables, mais peut-\u00eatre aussi parfois par des chemins plus positifs. <strong>Il ne s\u2019agit pas du tout d\u2019un plaidoyer pour la pollution, mais de prendre acte de ce ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne d\u2019hybridation, ou plus exactement de coexistence avec le plastique et de transformation du vivant<\/strong>. <strong>Le plastique est maintenant un \u00e9l\u00e9ment de la nature et du vivant, et nous allons devoir faire avec. Est-ce pour autant une raison pour continuer \u00e0 en produire toujours davantage\u00a0? Certainement pas.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><span data-token-index=\"0\" class=\"notion-enable-hover\" data-reactroot=\"\">Un grand merci \u00e0 Baptiste pour sa disponibilit\u00e9 !<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul><\/ul>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_5&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.17.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.18.0&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.18.0&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_button button_url=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/mapetiteplanete.org\/decouvrir-le-jeu\/\u00a0\u00bb button_text=\u00a0\u00bbParticiper \u00e0 la prochaine \u00e9dition\u00a0\u00bb 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